Comments on: Pig Stories, Dog Stories, Our Stories http://betweendrafts.com/2010/02/10/pig-stories-dog-stories-our-stories/ A writer's blog with English and German language categories about creative, academic, and copy writing and how we make sense of the world through storytelling. Wed, 09 May 2012 22:21:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: between drafts | I Write Like… | Ich schreibe wie … http://betweendrafts.com/2010/02/10/pig-stories-dog-stories-our-stories/#comment-18367 between drafts | I Write Like… | Ich schreibe wie … Sat, 29 Oct 2011 23:55:14 +0000 http://betweendrafts.com/?p=5202#comment-18367 [...] For the English version I picked my blogpost “Pig Stories, Dog Stories, Our Stories,” without the Hofstaedter quote, which—more essayistic, more emotional—is a rather typical [...] [...] For the English version I picked my blogpost “Pig Stories, Dog Stories, Our Stories,” without the Hofstaedter quote, which—more essayistic, more emotional—is a rather typical [...]

]]> By: between drafts | Xenotransplantation: Check. http://betweendrafts.com/2010/02/10/pig-stories-dog-stories-our-stories/#comment-17265 between drafts | Xenotransplantation: Check. Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:06:18 +0000 http://betweendrafts.com/?p=5202#comment-17265 [...] is great news, but for reasons I’ve laid out here, here or here, I’d rather wish we would try and vet-grow these tissue and organs instead of [...] [...] is great news, but for reasons I’ve laid out here, here or here, I’d rather wish we would try and vet-grow these tissue and organs instead of [...]

]]> By: gyokusai http://betweendrafts.com/2010/02/10/pig-stories-dog-stories-our-stories/#comment-5115 gyokusai Sat, 16 Apr 2011 12:47:12 +0000 http://betweendrafts.com/?p=5202#comment-5115 Thanks, almost a blog entry by itself :) And indeed, historically, humans have “naturally” interacted with their food. A friend of mine once said she didn’t mind killing & eating animals she lived and interacted with at all, but until then, the animals had a right to be treated decently. I found that rather curious back then, but she had a good point. And that has broken down, hasn’t it—in livestock handling, automatization and cruelty “evolved” hand in hand. Under these circumstances, I’m not entirely comfortable with consuming meat in general (not to speak of pigs), and I really hope for a future where production and consumption, or most of it, will have shifted to vat-grown meat. (Which wouldn’t, alas, solve those <a href="http://io9.com/#!5458425/is-vat+grown-meat-kosher-we-asked-a-rabbi">fantasy problems</a> once and for all :-)) Thanks, almost a blog entry by itself :) And indeed, historically, humans have “naturally” interacted with their food. A friend of mine once said she didn’t mind killing & eating animals she lived and interacted with at all, but until then, the animals had a right to be treated decently. I found that rather curious back then, but she had a good point. And that has broken down, hasn’t it—in livestock handling, automatization and cruelty “evolved” hand in hand. Under these circumstances, I’m not entirely comfortable with consuming meat in general (not to speak of pigs), and I really hope for a future where production and consumption, or most of it, will have shifted to vat-grown meat. (Which wouldn’t, alas, solve those fantasy problems once and for all :-))

]]> By: adastra http://betweendrafts.com/2010/02/10/pig-stories-dog-stories-our-stories/#comment-4993 adastra Sun, 10 Apr 2011 18:34:20 +0000 http://betweendrafts.com/?p=5202#comment-4993 My parents owned pigs when I was growing up - two pot-bellied pigs and two "Deutsche Hausschweine". The Hausschweine ended up in our fridge, but we kept the pot-bellied pigs more or less as pets, meaning that they lived in our open stables with a big meadow. The older one of them, "Miss Piggy", died quite a while ago at age 18, but the younger one, "Billy" died only a few years ago (also pretty old, I think 18 or 20). Sadly he was alone for his last couple of years with only the ponies & the geese for company. But I can confirm that pigs are very smart, clean and social animals. Though Billy was incredibly shy (he was just not used to humans do anything else but feed him), he absolutely loved being pet and scratched. It took a while to get close to him to do it, but once you started scratching he was in heaven and would grunt and lie down enjoying this unusual massage. I can imagine that pigs who are used to human contact would be just as addicted to being pet as dogs and they'd probably learn interactions faster. Despite all this, I still like to eat pork (shame on me). I probably got some leftover mindsets from my family, I grew up on a former farm where up until the 70s & 80s it was completely normal to live and interact with what you'd later be eating. I'm a little to young, but my brothers have lots of stories of our grandparents chopping of the chicken's heads, plucking them and whatever comes after that... My parents owned pigs when I was growing up – two pot-bellied pigs and two “Deutsche Hausschweine”. The Hausschweine ended up in our fridge, but we kept the pot-bellied pigs more or less as pets, meaning that they lived in our open stables with a big meadow. The older one of them, “Miss Piggy”, died quite a while ago at age 18, but the younger one, “Billy” died only a few years ago (also pretty old, I think 18 or 20). Sadly he was alone for his last couple of years with only the ponies & the geese for company. But I can confirm that pigs are very smart, clean and social animals. Though Billy was incredibly shy (he was just not used to humans do anything else but feed him), he absolutely loved being pet and scratched. It took a while to get close to him to do it, but once you started scratching he was in heaven and would grunt and lie down enjoying this unusual massage. I can imagine that pigs who are used to human contact would be just as addicted to being pet as dogs and they’d probably learn interactions faster.

Despite all this, I still like to eat pork (shame on me). I probably got some leftover mindsets from my family, I grew up on a former farm where up until the 70s & 80s it was completely normal to live and interact with what you’d later be eating. I’m a little to young, but my brothers have lots of stories of our grandparents chopping of the chicken’s heads, plucking them and whatever comes after that…

]]> By: between drafts | Pigs and the Human Condition (Plus, Pigs Are Cute) http://betweendrafts.com/2010/02/10/pig-stories-dog-stories-our-stories/#comment-4969 between drafts | Pigs and the Human Condition (Plus, Pigs Are Cute) Sat, 09 Apr 2011 16:38:04 +0000 http://betweendrafts.com/?p=5202#comment-4969 [...] animals is so incredibly different when it comes to either pigs or dogs in yet another blog entry, Pig Stories, Dog Stories, Our Stories. Moreover, there’s a quote attributed to Winston Churchill to that effect, and I always wondered [...] [...] animals is so incredibly different when it comes to either pigs or dogs in yet another blog entry, Pig Stories, Dog Stories, Our Stories. Moreover, there’s a quote attributed to Winston Churchill to that effect, and I always wondered [...]

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